Australian Lefty on Politics, Governance, Science and Info Management

Something Conroy might block – Pottery and Plato

Posted by Dave Bath on 2008-12-21

Over the fold is a link to the front cover of a book published by the University of Illinois, and links to some wikipedia pages, all entirely legitimate in my view, but which Senator Conroy could well want filtered from our internet, especially in the light of a recent court decision in NSW about a Simpsons-esque image.

Both provide learned discussion and archaeological images relating to the "erastes" (ἐραστής), the classical Greek "mentor" of the "eromenos" (ἐρώμενος).  I won’t display the famous images in the post (which depict actions between two people rather than merely one person striking a pose), just follow the links.  Note that many more explicit images are scattered throughout museum catalogs and textbooks from Oxford and Cambridge Uni Press, as well as Penguin.

I’m pretty sure that something like this was in the collection I took my then pre-school daughter to see when the best pieces of antiquity from the British Museum came to Melbourne (although she preferred the big statues and bas-reliefs to boring old pottery).

  • Erastes (the adult) at Wikipedia, which includes a picture of a 6th century BCE black-figure pottery piece.
  • Eromenos (the adolescent) at Wikipedia
  • Frontcover of "Ped(…) and Pedagogy in Archaic Greece" by William Armstrong Percy III, Published by University of Illinois Press, 1998, ISBN 0252067401, ISBN 9780252067402, 272 pages at …
  • This from the wikimedia commons is an even more famous image demonstrating the relationship wasn’t platonic (and perhaps Plato’s Symposium might also be banned given what gets praised!)


2 Responses to “Something Conroy might block – Pottery and Plato”

  1. […] happen if you mention Plato or show images of the pottery of Ancient Greece (see "Something Conroy Might Block: Pottery and Plato" […]

  2. […] "Something Conroy might block: Pottery and Plato" (2008-12-21), let alone the type of violence in Shakespeare’s Titus Andronicus, the stories of Zeus’ cavortings as a swan (Leda), as a bull (Europa), or, as Pavlov’s Cat points out in an LP comment, the story of Pasiphaë.  […]

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